Tuesday, December 02, 2008

I get mail....

Received today, from my ever eager Conservative MP for Nepean-Carleton, Pierre Poilievre:

Stand up for Canada - Let the people speak

Two months ago, Canadians elected the Prime Minister with a strengthened mandate to address the global economic crisis.

Now, a Socialist-Separatist-driven coalition is attempting to overturn the results of the last election and impose a Prime Minister that Canadians rejected.

The Socialist-Separatist-driven coalition is:

  • An attack on Canada
    • Separatist participation and a Separatist veto on national decisions
  • An attack on Canada’s democracy
    • Canadians resoundingly rejected Stéphane Dion as Prime Minister
  • An attack on Canada’s economy
    • The Liberals themselves called the NDP “economically-damaging”.

Canada’s Government will use every legal means possible to:

  • Protect Canada
    • No Separatist Participation and No Separatist Veto
  • Protect Canada’s democracy
    • No imposition of a radical new Government without the people’s consent
  • Protect Canada’s economy
    • No economically-damaging agenda for the country

During a global economic crisis, Canada needs leadership. Canadian leadership. There can be no Socialist-Separatist-driven coalition without the people’s consent.

It’s time to Stand up for Canada.

It’s time to Let the people speak.

Contact Info for the leaders of this Coalition:

Stephane Dion


Fax: 613-996-6562

Jack Layton

Phone: 613-995-7224

Fax: 613-995-4565

Contact Info for the Governor General:

Phone: 613-993-8200

Email: smcook@gg.ca

Isn't that swell?

Here's my response:

Dear Pierre,

Shut the hell up.

There is nothing illegal or extra constitutional about the Liberals NDP and Bloc forming a coalition. Two months ago, the people of Canada elected their MPs to Parliament. We don't elect the Prime Minister, Parliament does. The Prime Minister is the person who can maintain the confidence of the House. Under normal circumstances that is the leader of the Party with the most seats, by convention. During a minority, it requires that the person acting as Prime Minister works with the other parties to ensure maintaining that confidence. If he loses that confidence, the government falls and we either have an election OR someone else in Parliament can try to for the government.

Well, Stephen Harper thought it better to take advantage of an economic crisis for crass,partisan political opportunism to try and destroy his political enemies by means outside of the ballot box. THAT is undemocratic.

Harper took a gamble and he lost. In a gl;obal economic crisis Canada does indeed need leadership - too bad Stephen Harper choose not to be that leader, but a petty bully with no vision or plan.

I'd like to point out that the proposed coalition represents more than 50% of the population and commands 163 seats in the House of Commons. It represents the 63% of Canadians that specifically didn't vote for Stephen Harper. It is by definition, legal, constuitutional and representing the will of Canadians.

If you don't understand how our system works, why are you an MP? If you don't like this system, propose a meanful systemic change or leave. Just stop the lying and fear-mongering. It merely shows how desparate and child-like you are.

Your points specifically:

"Socialist-Separatist-driven coalition"

Yawn. This kind of belicose language might play in the US or, but not in most of this country. Every party to the coalition is a legitmate federal party with seats in Parliament.

  • An attack on Canada
    • Separatist participation and a Separatist veto on national decisions

No, the Bloc has laid out its conditions and signed an accord that states very clearly what it will do. It says nothing about vetoing national decisions. I might point out that the Bloc represents more than just "separatists"...many non-separatist Quebecers vote Bloc because they provide good representation.

  • An attack on Canada’s democracy
    • Canadians resoundingly rejected Stéphane Dion as Prime Minister

No, that is a bald faced lie. This move is totally within the rules of our Parliamentary democracy and actually has precident, both federally and provincially, in Canadian history. "Canadians" did not reject Stephane Dion as PM because Canadians didn't vote for Stephane Dion - they only voted for their MP. STop confusing our system with the American Presidential system. Or stop purposely doing this to confuse people who may not know better. No Canadian voted for Stephen Harper either, except those people in Calgary-Southwest. He is the Prime Minister because under our rules of Parliamentary democracy, he currently has the confidence of the House. The same reason why Stephane Dion will be Prime Minister next Tuesday morning.

Stop lying and misleading.

  • An attack on Canada’s economy
    • The Liberals themselves called the NDP “economically-damaging”.

Sure, whatever. Propoganda. I do not like the NDP much either, but they will not be holding any key economic cabinet positions. I'd also like to point out that the NDP has a long record of balanced budgets when in power provincially (though not always).

Red baiting is so 1960's. Grow up.

"Canada needs leadership. Canadian leadership."

So the members of the Coalition are not Canadian? Or just the Bloc members from Quebec? Nice littel dog whistle to the anti-Quebec and anti-French base. Well done.

"There can be no Socialist-Separatist-driven coalition without the people’s consent."

Earth to Pierre, the coalition is made up of duly elected Canadian Citizens, elected fairly to the House of Commons 6 weeks ago and together the represent the majority or the electorate and the majority of the seats in the House.

The people have spoken, you just don't like what they have to say.

So really Pierre, this is pitiful. Outright lying, hyperbole and exaggeration, 60's style red baiting and baseless fear mongering. All so you can maintain your grasp on power.

How very Paul Martin Liberal of you.

What can we expect next, Pierre? Dark, forboding TV ads:

"Socialist. Spearatists. In our streets. I'm not making this up"

You really want to Stand up for Canada? Sit down, shut up and take your lumps like a man. In the game of politics, Stephen Harper and the Conservatives lost. Maybe you ought to be question the judgement of your leader in instigating this, instead of wasting your breathe lying and trying to scare people into supporting you.

BTW, good luck with that RCMP investigation into the illegal recording of the NDP caucus meeting. Since you were a party to the distribution, I'm sure they'll want to talk to you. Law and order, remember.

Enjoying your misery thoroughly

I despise liars and opportunists. I really don't care if the Coalition or the Conservative are in power. I dislike them both, on principle, but I especially dislike parties that emulate the tatics and divisive thuggery of fascists. In this case the Conservatives are the guilty ones.

Make no mistake, if and when the Coalition is the government, I'll be going oafter them for their bone-headed wastes of money in bailing out the auto-sector. Or cheap make-work projects. Or the continuation of low interest rates that are at the basis of the current market problems.

I loathe dishonesty and pandering and I don't care where it comes from.

Instead of the Coalition or the Conservatives, can we pick none of the above and just fire the whole figgin' lot of them?


In case any frothing Conservative boobs like Pierre or members of his staff are reading this after a google alert, I'll let James Laxer school you on our system of government. Now stop lying.

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At 3:29 PM, Blogger penlan said...

Great response letter Mike. Kudos!

At 3:38 PM, Blogger MrvnMouse said...

I hope more people write back if theiy receive this 10%er stuff.

At 3:44 PM, Blogger David Wozney said...

Re: “There is nothing illegal or extra constitutional about the Liberals NDP and Bloc forming a coalition.

What is occurring with the coalition is not lawful. Members of the coalition expressed allegiance to Elizabeth the Second.

Elizabeth the Second is not Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, contrary to the requirement in this Fifth Schedule, which states:

Oath of Allegiance

I A.B. do swear, That I will be faithful and bear true Allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria.

Note. The Name of the King or Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland for the Time being is to be substituted from Time to Time, with proper Terms of Reference thereto.”.

The provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick expressed their desire to be federally united into one Dominion under the Crown of the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland”, not the Crown of the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”, according to the British North America Act, 1867.

At 3:48 PM, Blogger Mike said...

Shorter David Wozney:

"Blub blub blub, its medication time again!!!!"

Take your nonsense elsewhere you bat-shit crazy bastard.

At 4:06 PM, Blogger Beijing York said...

Great letter Mike. Loved the opening line :-) A doozy of a [left] hook!

At 4:55 PM, Blogger Proudpinko said...

Very, very good response to Pipsqueak Pierre's stupid propaganda! I haven't received this yet, but would love to quote some (most!!) of your letter in response to his BS.

At 1:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand why the COnservatives, with 38% of the popular vote and 143 seats in Parliament, fresh off a fairly solid election victory, haven't been invited to join the coalition. If the coalition is really interested in representing all Canadians, why not make overtures to the Conservatives? Or is it that, as I suspect, the whole point is making sure that Conservatives and conservatives and libertarians and generally anyone else who doesn't favour a great big fat state is left completely out of the loop.

And Good Lord, Mike, I just read your "civil war" post below. It's a bit rich for you to pick on poor little Pierre for hyperbole and histrionics, now isn't it?


At 2:17 PM, Blogger Mike said...

Ah, but OC, my little "Worst Case Scenario" was never presented as fact...I clearly made it out to be total fiction - plausible, remote and pure fiction. It was also an admonition to both sides to keep the rhetoric to a minimum.

I have no problem with CPC supporters clearly stating that the plans the coalition may have are very bad and very wrong. I think economically this will be a disaster.

What I do have a problem with, which I thought was clear, was these people lying about our parliamentary system and misrepresenting their opponents. Trust me, the minute the coalition side does something as egregious as this fantasy rant from Pierre, I'll call them on it to.

So far, I've seen nothing.

And Conservatives being lumped in with people who don't favour a great big fat state? Please. this is the government that outspent Paul Martin held hostage by the NDP in its last two budgets (as Coyne has pointed out a few times). Apart from some ideologically driven token cuts (SWC, Court Challenges etc) they have grown government immensely. And there are members of this party, some even Cabinet Ministers who would be more than happy to grow it more, if only to ensure that if you ever do have sex, its only with a woman and only in the missionary position, with an unimpeded flow of sperm.

If the Conservatives are on the side of the angels, why are they resorting to lies and misinformation. Surely they could tell the truth and win people over with that? Right?

Besides, after saying one week they are going to work with the other parties only to turn around and try to screw them, its hardly surprising that the opposition don't trust the Conservatives. Who could?

Imagine if Harper had actually did what he said he was going to do instead of trying to take advantage of a crisis to try to destroy his enemies? We wouldn't have had anything to post all week.

Harper is the cause of this. Something to think about.

At 9:40 PM, Blogger Stephen K said...

Thank you Mike for sending that response to Poilievre. I couldn't have put it better. I have to say I wouldn't have taken the time.


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